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  1. Katelyn
    August 14, 2017 @ 9:21 pm

    I tried to send an email through with a question for Ross Patterson, but the “contact us” page said “error for the site owner, invalid site key” so I wanted to post it here:

    ATTN Ross Patterson:

    Hello, I just watched your talk on Egypt/Exodus and what happens to us when we die. I have a couple scriptures I would like to ask you about as they weren’t mentioned in your theological evaluation of what happens when we die. You mentioned we don’t go to heaven right away, but that we “sleep” until the resurrection.

    I can understand where you are coming from with looking at the scripture references you provided, but there are scriptures that would seem to contradict your conclusions. So, one needs to dig a little deeper to marry all the scriptures together.

    The first is a scripture in Revelation that talks about the martyrs. John is in heaven witnessing the unfolding events in the future. I will list it here:

    Revelation 6:9-11New Living Translation (NLT)

    9 When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of all who had been martyred for the word of God and for being faithful in their testimony. 10 They shouted to the Lord and said, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you judge the people who belong to this world and avenge our blood for what they have done to us?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them. And they were told to rest a little longer until the full number of their brothers and sisters[a]—their fellow servants of Jesus who were to be martyred—had joined them.

    So, from this text we can see that the martyrs are:

    1) Given white robes. Clearly, they have some kind of physicality to be able to wear a robe.

    2) They also called out, so they have the ability to speak. This also testifies to their physicality,

    3) They have died, but have not been resurrected and are in the current Heaven, as they need to “wait a little longer.” for Jesus to avenge them.

    4) They remembered their lives on Earth as they asked God when He would avenge them for their deaths.

    So, while I believe the bible is clear in the fact that our bodies and our souls are separated at death, it is pretty clear to say that our souls are going to the place Jesus talks about when he says he is going to prepare a place for us.

    (John 14:2 “In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?)

    His father’s house has “many rooms” or in the Greek “monai” which means a temporary dwelling place. Why would there be a temporary dwelling place if we were only asleep.

    I believe the verses you are referencing could be referencing the separation of our bodies, and how our bodies are asleep, not conscious as our “consciousness” (which is our soul) is in the temporary waiting place. Our souls which do take up space and time as seen in Revelation with the martyrs, will await Jesus’ second coming when we will receive our resurrected bodies and our bodies and souls will be reunited again.

    Just some thoughts. I too, want to live by the word of the bible and if there are contradictions they need to be looked at. I think that scripture is very clear that there is a temporary waiting place that Jesus is preparing for our souls, and that our souls will have a physicality in time and space in heaven, while our bodies lay sleeping and in wait for Jesus return. I think that is a nice synonymous interpretation of scriptures. Do you have any thoughts on these verses?

    Katelyn

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